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		By: Kiwiwriter		</title>
		<link>https://sorrywatch.com/is-this-vince-lombardi-high/#comment-215144</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 14 Feb 2020 21:04:16 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Every time I see this stuff of (White) Christians trying to force their weltanschauung on others (usually the defenseless), I am reminded of two things:

1. How the same White Christians whine about how persecuted they are, usually after the Starbucks Barista says &quot;Happy Holidays&quot; instead of &quot;Merry Christmas&quot; or &quot;The Lord Be Open.&quot;

2. White Christians have often led the league in inflicting persecution on others in the name of a Savior who calls for absolute non-violence, with such colorful examples as The Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, the Trail of Tears, the Russian Pogroms, and, of course, the Holocaust. What was so &quot;Christian&quot; about any of the above, and who was getting &quot;persecuted?&quot;]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Every time I see this stuff of (White) Christians trying to force their weltanschauung on others (usually the defenseless), I am reminded of two things:</p>
<p>1. How the same White Christians whine about how persecuted they are, usually after the Starbucks Barista says &#8220;Happy Holidays&#8221; instead of &#8220;Merry Christmas&#8221; or &#8220;The Lord Be Open.&#8221;</p>
<p>2. White Christians have often led the league in inflicting persecution on others in the name of a Savior who calls for absolute non-violence, with such colorful examples as The Crusades, the Spanish Inquisition, the Trail of Tears, the Russian Pogroms, and, of course, the Holocaust. What was so &#8220;Christian&#8221; about any of the above, and who was getting &#8220;persecuted?&#8221;</p>
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		By: sumac		</title>
		<link>https://sorrywatch.com/is-this-vince-lombardi-high/#comment-176537</link>

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		<pubDate>Fri, 24 Apr 2015 04:33:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://sorrywatch.com/is-this-vince-lombardi-high/#comment-176502&quot;&gt;tanita&lt;/a&gt;.

Well, the FFRF stops a lot of stuff, on a case by case basis. Texas, Oklahoma, Louisiana... California, Ohio....]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://sorrywatch.com/is-this-vince-lombardi-high/#comment-176502">tanita</a>.</p>
<p>Well, the FFRF stops a lot of stuff, on a case by case basis. Texas, Oklahoma, Louisiana&#8230; California, Ohio&#8230;.</p>
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		By: tanita		</title>
		<link>https://sorrywatch.com/is-this-vince-lombardi-high/#comment-176503</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2015 15:45:41 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[In reply to &lt;a href=&quot;https://sorrywatch.com/is-this-vince-lombardi-high/#comment-176501&quot;&gt;sumac&lt;/a&gt;.

Incidentally, I know Texans who aren&#039;t like this - and have teacher-friends there, too, who provide a great education. I don&#039;t necessarily agree that they&#039;re the worst state in the union - I will not diss your state (and the state where my best girlfriend lives). But I do wonder why no one is stopping this superintendent dude.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>In reply to <a href="https://sorrywatch.com/is-this-vince-lombardi-high/#comment-176501">sumac</a>.</p>
<p>Incidentally, I know Texans who aren&#8217;t like this &#8211; and have teacher-friends there, too, who provide a great education. I don&#8217;t necessarily agree that they&#8217;re the worst state in the union &#8211; I will not diss your state (and the state where my best girlfriend lives). But I do wonder why no one is stopping this superintendent dude.</p>
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		By: tanita		</title>
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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2015 15:42:43 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Full disclosure: I have had lifelong religious instruction. From grade 1 - 12, and then I attended denominational colleges for four years. Even my graduate school at a women&#039;s college had been started in the 1800&#039;s as an institution of &quot;morally instruction&quot; for the education of women. I know from my religious people....

Yet, &lt;i&gt;during my school days, WE DID NOT EVER have Bible verses read to us during morning announcements.&lt;/i&gt; Not that there wasn&#039;t Teh Crazy - I *did* have one professor do this sort of thing in college - during our upper-division LINGUISTICS class, where she wasted upwards of fifteen minutes per class on that sort of thing, and you can bet we took the matter to the academic dean, because there&#039;s a time and a place for Bible reading and &quot;moral&quot; readings, and while we were trying not to giggle much at the word &quot;fricative&quot; wasn&#039;t it. Also, overall, there is a such thing as a.) freedom equally &lt;b&gt;of&lt;/b&gt; AND &lt;b&gt;from&lt;/b&gt; religion, b.) freedom of choice and c.) being a captive audience and wanting to gnaw off one&#039;s limb to escape. I feel SO VERY strongly about this. And people wonder why folks think people of faith are scary, pushy bastids. 

I&#039;m most appalled that a public school is doing this -- but Texas, man. It troubles me even more that no one is stopping them - this educational super and his pseudo-Christian henchpersons (they&#039;re just. so. SMUG and righteous and ugh). This issue for me is just as important as the issue of those states that decide they&#039;re not going to marry everyone - &lt;i&gt;they&#039;re&lt;/i&gt; reminded of what happens to states who decide to defy federal mandate (and the specter of Bull Conner rises) -- so why isn&#039;t anyone really saying, &quot;ENOUGH, Texas?&quot; That bugs the crud out of me - and I still consider myself a person of faith.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Full disclosure: I have had lifelong religious instruction. From grade 1 &#8211; 12, and then I attended denominational colleges for four years. Even my graduate school at a women&#8217;s college had been started in the 1800&#8217;s as an institution of &#8220;morally instruction&#8221; for the education of women. I know from my religious people&#8230;.</p>
<p>Yet, <i>during my school days, WE DID NOT EVER have Bible verses read to us during morning announcements.</i> Not that there wasn&#8217;t Teh Crazy &#8211; I *did* have one professor do this sort of thing in college &#8211; during our upper-division LINGUISTICS class, where she wasted upwards of fifteen minutes per class on that sort of thing, and you can bet we took the matter to the academic dean, because there&#8217;s a time and a place for Bible reading and &#8220;moral&#8221; readings, and while we were trying not to giggle much at the word &#8220;fricative&#8221; wasn&#8217;t it. Also, overall, there is a such thing as a.) freedom equally <b>of</b> AND <b>from</b> religion, b.) freedom of choice and c.) being a captive audience and wanting to gnaw off one&#8217;s limb to escape. I feel SO VERY strongly about this. And people wonder why folks think people of faith are scary, pushy bastids. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m most appalled that a public school is doing this &#8212; but Texas, man. It troubles me even more that no one is stopping them &#8211; this educational super and his pseudo-Christian henchpersons (they&#8217;re just. so. SMUG and righteous and ugh). This issue for me is just as important as the issue of those states that decide they&#8217;re not going to marry everyone &#8211; <i>they&#8217;re</i> reminded of what happens to states who decide to defy federal mandate (and the specter of Bull Conner rises) &#8212; so why isn&#8217;t anyone really saying, &#8220;ENOUGH, Texas?&#8221; That bugs the crud out of me &#8211; and I still consider myself a person of faith.</p>
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		By: sumac		</title>
		<link>https://sorrywatch.com/is-this-vince-lombardi-high/#comment-176501</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2015 15:36:28 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[You had me until you started in on Texas, Bruce. I don&#039;t want to hear a word against Texas. Particularly East Texas. Especially Smith County. I&#039;m talking about Tyler. In fact, one word against the residents of S. Fannin St. and I&#039;m liable to fly off the handle.

Wait. Unless you&#039;re speaking politically. Then I can hear your arguments. Particularly about the mail carrier who decided it was too much trouble to deliver on Wednesdays, and on other days brought us all the random mail to people with Irish surnames.  That was pretty bad.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You had me until you started in on Texas, Bruce. I don&#8217;t want to hear a word against Texas. Particularly East Texas. Especially Smith County. I&#8217;m talking about Tyler. In fact, one word against the residents of S. Fannin St. and I&#8217;m liable to fly off the handle.</p>
<p>Wait. Unless you&#8217;re speaking politically. Then I can hear your arguments. Particularly about the mail carrier who decided it was too much trouble to deliver on Wednesdays, and on other days brought us all the random mail to people with Irish surnames.  That was pretty bad.</p>
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		By: Bruce		</title>
		<link>https://sorrywatch.com/is-this-vince-lombardi-high/#comment-176486</link>

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		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Apr 2015 11:19:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description><![CDATA[Unbelievable.  Why does a public school official believe schools are responsible for or should be involved in providing &quot;a  morally sound...education.&quot;?  What the heck is a character based education?  Do they seriously think high school kids need a daily inspirational message?  I guess since they have finished their work of screwing up textbooks, the worst state in the United States has decided to get back to trying to impose White Christian bs on kids.]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Unbelievable.  Why does a public school official believe schools are responsible for or should be involved in providing &#8220;a  morally sound&#8230;education.&#8221;?  What the heck is a character based education?  Do they seriously think high school kids need a daily inspirational message?  I guess since they have finished their work of screwing up textbooks, the worst state in the United States has decided to get back to trying to impose White Christian bs on kids.</p>
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